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With the launch of a new (sub)sites we decided that the Java and LAMP developers needed their own place to hang out.
Chat about your industry or the IT industry as a whole. Discuss gadgets and toys that make your day to day programming life interesting. Talk about what you are currently up to and find out what everyone else is doing.
Or just hang out and watch, enjoy and be amused.
The Rules
1. No programming questions!
2. This forum follows the same rules as www.codeproject.com's Lounge in that it's for IT related discussions (with a Java / LAMP flavour) and only posts suitable for your kid sister to read are acceptable.
3. Anything to do with Sex, Religion and Politics (not even necessarily at the same time) don't belong here, similarly with flame bait and flame wars.
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Trying to get Magen to install on Fedora core 6 Linux systems.
It complains about php being 5.1.6 and yum does not seem to upgrade it.
Any suggestions.
I am working on XAMPP for the time being. but I have to get the system to FC^ box ASAP.
Any suggestions.
Tapas Shome
System Software Engineer
Keen Computer Solutions
1408 Erin Street
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Canada R3E 2S8
http://www.keencomputer.com
modified on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:44 PM
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FC6 reached End Of Life on Dec 7th 2007. There aren't any updates available. Upgrade to a supported Fedora release (or a completely different distro), or start maintaining the system entirely on your own and build everything from source (effectively turning the distribution to Linux From Scratch[^]).
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I've been looking to setup a CMS / Wiki / Blogging software to create a new website and was wondering if anybody had any favorites.
I'm really looking for something extensible and relatively easy to add functionality to.
Obviously there are the big ones, Drupal, Joomla, MediaWiki ...
Anyone have any preferences?
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Can you let us know what the site is for?
Brad Australian The PHP MVP- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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Well its still kind of vague at this point. Basically a personal website to mess around with and use for learning. I know that each of them can do what the others can do to some extent, but MediaWiki is a better wiki than Drupal, and Drupal is a better CMS than MediaWiki.
If you were going to pick one that a site could grow into depending on requirements in the future, which would you recommend?
But to throw some requirements out there to give a starting point:
Something to keep track of games scores / results, basic forum and blog support, RSS, and can plug into either MySQL or PostgreSQL. Also the lighter it is on resources the better. I plan on running it with Lighttpd and not Apache.
I'd prefer one written in PHP, but if it's Python and has enough of a difference to justify trying it out I'd give it a shot.
But any thoughts on which ones handle plug ins and extensions better than others, upgrades, migrations etc..
Any input on one vs. the other that I won't notice until I've used it for six months.
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Most CMS are extensible via modules.
I like the Drupal codebase but the interface is confusing I find. Joomla and Mambo are bloated and really complex.
CMS Made Simple is a decent interface (not very pretty but functional) and the modules are easy to add and develop.
TypoLight is a awesome CMS -- very pretty -- at times confusing and extendable via modules. The codebase is probably one of the best for open source I have ever seen, at least some what following an MVC architecture.
Best of all, TypoLight is all about accesibility so pages validate which is nice.
There are literally countless others (CMS is a saturated market) I even wrote my own a few years back as a quick and dirty application to let clients easily update pages.
www.sourceforge.net/projects/texocms
You may also want to check out:
www.opensourcecms.com
Cheers 
I'm finding the only constant in software development is change it self.
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For blogging software, I'm a big fan of Wordpress. I'm currently using wordpress for my blog and I've been using it for more than two years...
For Wiki, I think MediaWiki might be better. I'm thinking to use it for one of my sites. I bought one domain for that site but haven't installed yet. So, I can't say MediaWiki is the best for me or not but I heard that it's pretty good one.
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What would you consider a fanboy?
Who has the worst Fanboys?
Are all fanboys bad?
Are you a fanboy?
Which fanboys do you secretly hate the most?
Brad Australian The PHP MVP- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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Bradml wrote: Who has the worst Fanboys
Apple of course.
And Google followers
And Windows users.
And don't get me started on the Linux guys...
Every industry has its own unique set of fanboys but that's the nature of humanity. It's called rationalisation.
Having just bought my first iMac (it goes with the decor, you see...) I'm finding that I like it, but, y'know, it's just a machine. A machine with some weird, weird annoyances and totally undeserving of its loyalty. The packaging is nice but the UI is one that you need to know how to use it to, well, use it. Don't unplug a peripheral without ejecting; when installing something and you are presented with a box with the installed app and the applications folder, you need to drag from one to the other (even though the install process seemed to have gone through all the steps). No tips or hints or clues. And all at a hefty premium of course.
My feeling is that the fanboy mentality is directly proportional to the financial pain involved or the amount of work needed to work with the item. The more pain, the more rationalisation, the more the fanboy mentality comes out.
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Apple of course.
And Google followers
Yep, those are givens
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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In my book, a fanboy is someone who puts up with (or disregards) excruciatingly painful downsides to something while praising it blindly. I do consider there to be die-hard fans that I don't call fanboys, though they are excluded because they admit the faults of their choice and prefer it based on circumstance; these people usually acknowledge that there is no "best," but merely a "best for the situation."
Apple has the worst fanboys because Apple has proven time and time again that they don't care about their consumers with awful licensing practices, restrictive systems and active prevention of free consumer choice; this doesn't make all Apple products bad, but it means many apple "fans" are just Sheeple that don't read the books they preach.
Businesses and maybe even the world need Fanboys to help mitigate the occurrence of those opposite of a fanboy which immediately disown something just because they ran into something they don't understand. The Fanboy is most qualified to show somebody all the pros to something while avoiding the cons
Some would probably call me a fanboy, though I propose that I do acknowledge the fallbacks of even thos things which I use frequently and I typically will not use something unless I think it's the right thing to get the job done to the best of my ability.
I secretly hate Linux fanboys; Linux is great for certain things, but the Linux fanboys think they're running the *perfect* OS without acknowledging some really really painful setup, packaging, configuration and usability scenarios. It's the only OS where I still experience dependency-hell on a regular basis. Though my favorite fanboys are the Linux ones that try to point you to tools best for you, not just the ones they use; these fanboys are probably the most educated I've encountered.
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First, I think it's hilarious that people are saying how much they detest Linux fanatics on the beta LAMP section of CP. I'm sure this doesn't bode well with the Linux folks who are checking this out for the first time!
Second, here's a real fanboy[^].
:josh: My WPF Blog[ ^] All of life is just a big rambling blog post.
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I'm happy to move over to the main site and bash Windows fan-boys just to strike a balance.
cheers, Chris Maunder CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm happy to move over to the main site and bash Windows fan-boys just to strike a balance.
 I know that's true!!
:josh: My WPF Blog[ ^] All of life is just a big rambling blog post.
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I don't want to know 
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Josh Smith wrote: here's a real fanboy
 Now I have to somehow erase that image from my mind
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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That's all right
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Bradml wrote: Who has the worst Fanboys?
Ruby On Rails
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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I'd like to see PHP have better local and cli program functionality. It would be a great language for writing simple system programs and scripts in.
I'd also like to see Linux clean up the root dir.
Brad Australian The PHP MVP- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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I mostly use SSH and remote into our production and development servers. What do you guys do? Physical access or remote access? GUI or Prompt? And also what flavor of Linux are you guys running?
Brad Australian The PHP MVP- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
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